Discussion for a future project

topic posted Fri, January 30, 2004 - 11:32 AM by  ZaeM the Gre...
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We have discussed plans for this project for awhile now, But Lokifreign and I agree that it requires the utmost respect for the subject, and its author, the inimitatable Cordwainer Smith.

The Story in Question is called "A Planet Named Shayol"; and the Concordance to corwainer Smith has this to say on that topic:

Shayol:
The pain planet. Dromazoa live here and cause growth in human bodies. This is a place of punishment agreed to between the Instamentality and the Empire. It was off-Limits 400 years before Mercer's arrival; it was discovered by Go-Captain Alverez 200 years before that. There was a population of about 1321 capable of providing spare parts plus about 700 others thoroughly absorbed. Cleaned up by the Instarmentality. [PS] It was worse than the burning of Joan, according to Lord Femtiosex. [DL]
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  • Re: Discussion for a future project

    Fri, January 30, 2004 - 11:38 AM
    dangit! I meant to press return! here's more:

    Shayol (from Hebrew/Arabic)-Sheol-the place for the forgotten ones [not Hell (Gehenna)]

    anyone interested in knowing more; I can provide you with the short story itself on request. I will photocopy the shit for you! We want to be sure to stick dead on the original Narative. there is no room for creative invention and flights of fancy here...there are plenty of other projects for that. Loki has connections with the heirs to this man's literary legacy, something he is very honored by, and I am jelous of. this is an important project for us. we only want to do it when we are ready, and folks are interested. the discussed plan involves Puppets, Costumes, sets, projection, music, and the fantasicly beautiful reading my Ms. Ludmilla, already in the can! reply here for discussion of this future project!
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    Re: Discussion for a future project

    Sun, February 1, 2004 - 2:59 AM
    This thread is illegal.

    The world wide web is a flagrant violation of 'strality Law.

    Who wants to be hypnotized first? Don't make me arrest myself, people.
    • Re: Discussion for a future project

      Sun, February 1, 2004 - 7:12 AM
      yes its Illegal, but as operatives of the Instramentality, we are expected, to some degree to engage in some illegal trafficing. We can be punnished later, after the show is done, the mission complete.
      • heh.

        Mon, February 2, 2004 - 10:36 AM
        I just typed out an insanely long post containing all relevent Characters and terms from the Concordance, then promptly lost it. well....my mind is refreshed.....
  • information retrieved! (whew)

    Mon, February 2, 2004 - 10:42 AM
    here are some terms and characters of note from the Concordance to Cordwainer Smith, that relate to the story "A planet Named Shayol"

    Alvarez, Go-Captain:
    Discovered Shatol 600 years before the story of Shayol begins. He is now almost entirely Dromozootic (note contradiction). He gets a regular Dose of 6 cc. of supercondamine. [PS]

    B'dikkat
    Attendant on Shayol-bull man called friend. he cut off the extra parts and gave supercondamine to the people on Shatol. He sounded the Galactic Alert when children were sent. He was contract to serve one kiloyear to redeem his family and freedom. He was rewarded by immediate return to Earth and 2 kiloyears pat by the instramentality, but he volunteered to finish taking care of the people [PS]
    Dikkit (Turkish) = care, attention.

    Condamine
    1.The most powerful narcotic in the known universe; its existence was not to be mentioned outside the hospital (rule 47-B) It put Rambo out [DB]
    2.A town on New France where super-condamine(q.V.)was developed [DB]
    condamine is the site of a chalybeate spring in the Cantal department of France; a division of Monoco; and a river in Queensland, Austrailia. it is also a street in the Austrailian Capital Territory near the Austrailian National University where Linebarger taught for a while.
    Customs Robots
    they were sent to Shayol-they travel very fast- to answer the Galacic Alert; took Data there. [PS]

    Da, Dowager Lady
    Widow of a previous Emperor, she had been sent to Shayol by the present one, her stepson. After Shatol was closed down she planned to marry Mercer. Her salvation on Sayol was "People Never Live Forever." [PS]
    da (Russian) = yes or da (Latin) = give

    Dromozoa
    Life Forms on Shayol. They settle into the body and grow extra parts of the body, causing great pain. They appear as flashes of light. they took care of the humans on Shayol: fed them, kept them alive, but it hurt. [PS]
    dromos (Greek)-moving rapidly +zoa (suffix form)-life

    Empire
    A government established(?) or permitted(?) by the instamentality for 1,000 [more likly 2,000] years by the Fundamental Agreement. It was set aside at the time Shayol was cleaned up. The last heirs being sent to Shayol triggered the clean up. They were sent their to prevent their committing treason when they grew up.[PS] It existed in the Time of Commander Sudzal's crime.[CG]

    Galactic Alert-All Ships Here
    Awarning to be used only for new invaders but B'dikkit sounded it when four children were sent to Shayol by the Empire. [PS]

    Gnade, Lady Johanna
    She was at the meeting where th E-telekeli obtained the necessary hiding information for the underpeople.[LC] She rejected Jestcost's ideals about the underpeople.[PB] Proudest and most self-willed of the Lords. About 600 (but less than) years old at the time of Rod's visit. Atrustee of the One Hundred Fifty Fund.[UP] She was contacted by the Dowager Lady Da on Shayol and arranged for its shut-down.[PS]
    Gnade (German)-grace, favor joanne (from John) = Jehovah has been gracious

    Go-Captain
    In command of the planoform ship when it is travelling (see also Stop Captain). Sits at the heart of the ship.[LK] In command.[RD] Guides ship with his mind; works in a trance using locksheets for aid.[BB] Knows about fighting. [AR]

    Instamentality of Mankind
    It was set up after the successful rebellion against the Jwindz by Laird and Juli vom Acht and the Band of Cousins. The aim was to serve all mankind, to be benevolent, not manipulative.[QA] The governing (administrative?) body of most(?) of mankind. So-called at the time of the Drunkboat.[DB] "Watch, but do not govern; Stop War but do not wage it; Protect, but do not control; and first, survive!" It guards us and our worlds from the Archosians.[CG] It allows officers to comit crimes, mistakes, and suicide. The Instramentality does the things for mankind a computer cannot.[CG] It struggles to keep man man.[UE] It would not take action against Wedder but it did give Casher O'neill an all-world pass.[GM] Bribed its own officers.[UP]

    Lords of the Instramentality
    Controllers of Earth.[GP] They were bribed (heh heh) by Raumsog (6oz of stroon to the presiding officer). Fought to kill when life and death were at stake. [GS] Knew about fighting. [AR] could kill without trial.[DB]

    Mercer
    Committed a crime and was sent to Shayol; he had been on Shayol for 84y 7mo 3d 2h 11.5m when B'dikkit how long he had been there. He survived to marry the Dowager Lady Da.[PS]
    mercer (Middle English)-textile dealer; alternatively, from mercia-mercy

    New France
    the planet where super-condamine was developed. [PS]
    Condamine is in France (see Condamine)

    "A Planet Named Shayol" (story)
    Shayol is used as the Imperial (and other?) punishment planet; home of the dromozoa. The dromozoa enter humans and cause extra body parts to grow. These parts were harvested by B'Dikkit who then gave super-condamine to the prisoners. Shayol was finally cleaned up by the Instamentality. [PS]. original publication: Galaxy, October 1961. Based upon Dante's Divine Comedy.

    Punishment Day
    An Imperial institution. Screams of people on Shayol were broadcast as a warning throughout the Empire. [PS]

    Stop-Captain
    Runs the ship when not in flight. [GM] Checks maintainence, loading, etc. in normal space. [BB] See also Go-Captain.

    Super-condamine
    Powerful narcotic; like condamine but with an extra hydrogen molecule attached. it is deadly in three minutes unless the recipient has been exposed to the Dromozoa. It is forbidden to be mentioned. [PS]

    Surgery Satellite
    In orbit about Shatol; prepared people for the surface by skin toughening, nails, etc. Brainburning and eye rmoval optional.[PS]

    Sudzal, Commander
    Cruiser Commander with cubes and hypnotics. Had turtle-men for navigators. He answered the false aid call from Archosia. Sent cats back 2 million years to breed civilization and fight the Klopts; this was against the law. He was stripped of name, rank, life, and death-sent to Shayol. [CG] On Shayol he refused the super-condamine when he found out Shayol was finnished.[PS]
    Sudzal is a city in the U.S.S.R. northwest of Moscow; it was ruled by Prince Alexander Nevsky.

    Vom Acht, Doctor
    Worked on the surgery satellite in orbit about Shayol; prepared criminals for transportation to Shayol. [PS]





    if that doesn't make you want to read the entire canon of Smith Lierature, I don't know what will; buy yourself the two books you need to experience it all: "the rediscovery of man; the Complete Short Stories of Cordwainer Smith"; & "Norstrilia"
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      Re: information retrieved! (whew)

      Fri, February 13, 2004 - 5:32 PM
      Still no response from Ms. Hart (the Prophet's daughter) ~ I think she might be miffed at me for even asking about rights; I think she may have mentioned onece that she has lawyers to deal with the issue but my point is: "Who Else Will Do This Correctly"? The answer is NO ONE ELSE. We are the only qualified group in ALL THE WORLD - this is not hubris, but the sad fact.

      She'll come around - when she returns from Mexico I'm re-doubling the effort. JJPierce has given us a secret benediction - that COUNTS god dammit.

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